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 The Redclay Newsletter Notes Issue 60 Winter    2004-2005    

 

Secretary's Notes:

Khe Sanh Veterans New Message Board

     Since the last reunion we have started a new message board. This site is paid for by members of the Khe Sanh Veterans Association Inc. (KSV)

Registration is required, only registered members can view and post messages on the new message board.

Presently there are 128 registered members on the message board.

Log into  www.khesanh.org to register for message board and see guestbook then click on the lick that says "Big John Send Me Password" After approval from "Big John" you sign a registration form and you are able to view and post messages, Welcome Aboard.

Also at www.khesanh.org web site is the Khe Sanh Veterans PX @005 Reunion information and registration forms, membership applications to join the Khe Sanh Veterans Association Inc., pictures from previous reunion and from 66, 67, 68 Khe Sanh and much more.

 

Reunion Committee
Notes:

     After reviewing comments from the membership at the Dallas Reunion, the reunion committee has decided to limit the number of off-site activities at the Chicago Reunion.

Many members have suggested more activities at the hotel, rather than activities requiring group travel. In response we have decided to hire our own transportation.

Mini-buses will be operated by veteran Police Officers who have volunteered their time and are very familiar with Chicago and surrounding communities.

Transportation will be available day & night, for small or large groups of members who wish to visit the many sites that the City of Chicago has to offer. They will drop off and pick up members at regularly scheduled sites, as well as personal requested visits to other sites not on the regular schedule.

Each day the vehicles will make scheduled trips to shopping areas, museums, amusement parks, famous Chicago land-marks, and restaurants.

There will be a one-time fee of $10.00 assessed with the registration fee for this transportation.

We have one group trip planned for Friday the 15th of July to Navy Pier. Here there are a myriad of activities on this peninsula that extends into Lake Michigan, from shopping and a fun amusement park. It is one of Chicago's main tourist attractions. This trip will include a three-hour boat ride with dinner and dancing along Chicago's beautiful skyline. Shopping and free time will be from 12:00pm-6:00pm. The boat ride will be from 7:00pm-10:00pm. The boat docks directly along Navy Pier.

Members are encouraged to sign up for this event at the reunion. Members can pay at the pier for this event.

 

Chairman,
Membership & Publishing Committee
Notes:

 

     With your magazine you will find new pages for your membership directory with changes since November 2004. There were over 300 changes in that short period of time, so you can see why it is important to immediately inform me when there are changes in your personal records (address, phone, email). If you know the location of any member who has moved and who has left no forwarding address per listing, please inform me so we may get them back on the mailing rolls.

Tom Eichler Editorial Note

     Although our Red Clay magazine has almost exclusively published stories and articles pertaining to our experiences at Khe Sanh, we have made the decision to dedicate a new section of this publication to our brave young men fighting the war in Iraq. So much misinformation has been reported concerning the actions of these young warriors that we felt obligated to publish true stories of their heroic actions. Most of these articles have been sent by our own Khe Sanh veterans, who brought them to my attention. Note from Editor

Everyone says how much they love our magazine. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, we need more personal stories. You will note that we are having to go "outside" of Khe Sanh for our stories to fill our magazine. This is not our wish. Sometime back I went up on the message board and asked for stories. I received promises that have not been fulfilled. As I stated on the message board, your musings on the message board only last a couple of weeks then they are gone forever. Our magazine will be kept by Texas Tech and other schools "forever." We are a historical society. Do your part. Tell your story.

 

Editorial Note:


     Although our Red Clay magazine has almost exclusively published stories and articles pertaining to our experiences at Khe Sanh, we have made the decision to dedicate a new section of this publication to our brave young men fighting the war in Iraq. So much mis-information has been reported concerning the actions of these young warriors that we felt obligated to publish true stories of their heroic actions. Most of these articles have been sent by our own Khe Sanh veterans, who brought them to my attention.

Note from Editor


     Everyone says how much they love our magazine. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, we need more personal stories. You will note that we are having to go "outside" of Khe Sanh for our stories to fill our magazine. This is not our wish. Sometime back I went up on the message board and asked for stories. I received promises that have not been fullfilled. As I stated on the message board, your musings on the message board only last a couple of weeks then they are gone forever. Our magazine will be kept by Texas Tech and other schools "forever." We are a historical society. Do your part. Tell your story.


Book Review
by
Lt Col. Kenneth W Pipes, USMC (Ret)

 

     With this sterling book, Captain Coan, Marine Tanker, wounded Vietnam Veteran and combat leader of many battles fought against the experienced and professional North Vietnamese Army in and around "The Hill of Angels," has arrived as a riveting and knowledgeable Marine Corps historian! In my opinion, with the publication of this detailed and well researched work, he joins a small, elite band of Marine authors, who expand the grasp and under-standing of a confusing period of the Marine Corps heroic battles in the far northern provinces of South Vietnam!

  Con Thien:
The Hill of Angels
by:
Captain James Coan

Unlike most authors, Captain Coan made a bold and commendable decision early in his organization-al research period. He would focus his research on the continuing Battles of Con Thien within a four-grid-square area and include all units, operations and major combat actions. Thus, everything that occurred in this arbitrary zone from 1967 until 1969 when the area became the responsibility of the South Vietnamese is included. Major operations in this time period in and around Con Thien will be more than familiar to those that fought and survived these fierce battles: Prairie III, Prairie IV, Hickory, Cimarron, Buffalo, Kingfisher and Kentucky to mention just a few of the major actions! Marine casualty totals, when viewed in this correct manner are staggering: over 1400 Killed In Action and 9,200 wounded in action.

Impressively, the author's decision moved his writings from personal recollections, which is the format of many books written about Vietnam, to an all encompassing and well documented historical overview of major events surrounding the titanic struggles between our Marines and the NVA for control of this key piece of terrain. Consciously and commendably this approach highlights the individual courageous actions of Marines — from PFC to company grade officers. You will recognize the names of and remember many of these stalwart Marine warriors. I sure did! Details that you may not have known become rhyme and reason for the saga of Marine courage and tenacity — in any clime and place! Rightfully so, few senior Marine Field Grade or General Officers are mentioned. The war in Northern I Corps and their civilian counterparts neither tactically nor strategically was something many of them could nor should be proud of!

Documented here and in the recently published book, "Khe Sanh, The First Battle of the Hills," are the terrible screw-ups regarding the M-16. Though they were wrong, very senior Marines in Vietnam and Headquarters Marine Corps blamed the Marine Infantrymen for not cleaning their weapons properly and their combat leaders for not correctly supervising this necessary combat evolution. They were terribly and tragically wrong in their assessments and testimony before Congress! It was they who were negligent for not giving their last full measure of devotion in defense of their Marines against these dastardly and cowardly accusations! Marines were fighting and dying as they repeatedly and successfully executed Regimental and Division orders — orders that precluded our attack into NVA artillery, staging and marshalling areas just to the north of the Ben Hai River. Few senior civilian or military leaders were as willing to go into the breach for their Marines or Soldiers. As Captain Coan documents, the Marines on the sacred ground in and around Con Thien did not have this luxury! Like their French Foreign Legion predecessors, they marched and died, while their senior civilian and military leaders were generally not willing to place their careers in jeopardy by fighting for necessary life saving changes to the convoluted rules of engagement and failed strategy!

Captain Coan's research moved the stories of the murder of Marine prisoners of war by the NVA from the realm of rumor to fact. The skinning and nailing of bodies to trees, desecration of our dead and wounded by unspeakable mutilation have all been moved from the shadows into the harsh light of day! Was it better that this information was kept (to the extent possible) out of hands of the Marines on the ground? You who were there have your own opinions! Personally, speaking as a rifle company commander at Khe Sanh during the Siege, we and our Marines had a need to know this information!

This outstanding historical writing builds upon the groundwork laid by the Reverend Ray Stubbe and others who have written similar works about the many battles in and around Khe Sanh. The operational battles of Con Thien and Khe Sanh frequently

changed names. The reality is that only the name of the operation changed. The committed forces on either side remained much the same, as they were tunneled into and out of these meat grinders. Captain Coan's commendable research approach documents the terrible cost in Marines and Soldiers killed, maimed and wounded. Remember: 1419+ killed and 9265 wounded in a two-year period with-in four grid squares of the "Hill of Angels." It should come as no surprise to those who buy this book that some of the units that fought at Con Thien were then sent to Khe Sanh for the "Battle for the Hills" and "The Siege," before returning to the never ending struggle for control of Con Thien. As we used to say with great justification, "one good deal after the other!"

For the serious historian and Vietnam Marine and Army Veterans who survived the carnage in Northern I Corps, this outstanding book is an absolute must buy! When the reader adds Captain Coan's superb book to "Khe Sanh, The First Battle of the Hills," they will have a nearly compete picture of this trying and demanding time in our Marine Corps history. For our professional cadre of NCOs and officers, the long running fiasco of our experience in that time and place became a template for how not to fight a war. These Marines, who were later to occupy senior positions in our Corps, changed the way we would conduct our future war fighting! Out of the dismal failure of members of the "Greatest Generation" in Vietnam arose the success of Desert Storm and the initial success of the second war with Iraq! With its publication, Captain Jim P. Coan deserves only the highest praise for his book and has earned the support of our loyal Corps of readers! Well done, sir and congratulations!

Captain Coan is an active member of the Khe Sanh Veterans.
CON THIEN: The Hill of Angels
by James P. Coan
(University of Alabama Press)
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
35487-0380 ISBN 0-8173-1414-8 360 pp.)
$29.95. (for members $26.95)

Lt.Col. Kenneth W. Pipes
retired in 1982 and lives in Fallbrook, CA
Commanded Bravo Company
1st Battalion 26th Marines
at Khe Sanh Vietnam

 

Memorial Notes

     Representing the Khe Sanh Veterans, I attended the funeral of James Store of A Co 3Rd SP, who died after a fight from cancer. James was a gifted athlete and played softball (16-inch Chicago-style), most of his short life. The many people paying their last respects came from all walks of life: former Marines, police officers and motorcycle enthusiast. James was a Life Member of the Khe Sanh Veterans. I met him at the reunion held in Chicago in 2000. Although he lived a short distance away, I never really got to know him. While paying my respects, I discovered that I was a few years older than Jim, but we grew up in the same neighborhood and had the same childhood group of friends, who greatly admired him. What a small world. Jim leaves two young twin daughters and a lovely wife and will be missed by all. His two best friends, Joe and Jim Krzak, both former Marines, called Jim "The Colonel." Both said; "Our country lost a hero, and we lost our  brother and best friend. We will miss him dearly."

Tom Eichler

 

John Noon
      Writes that John W. Greene was a true friend and a great Marine, who could have been removed from a combat zone after receiving 3 Purple Hearts. He refused because he promised John Noon's mother, that he would watch over him. While keeping that promise, John was KIA after the tank he was riding on struck a mine during a combat operation. John Noon still thinks about his friend every day.

 

David P. Leitch
     Was an international news reporter that was with the Khe Sanh Veterans during the battle of Khe Sanh. His articles focused on the life conditions of the men. His articles reflected a great concern for our welfare. He often spoke to me, and related the agony he still felt for those who endured at Khe Sanh. He was a Life Member of our organization. Two of his writings on Khe Sanh were printed in the book Deadline, Collected Journalism (published in London by Harrup in 1984, "Inside Khe Sanh," pp.6-13; and "Khe Sanh-Two," pp.20-24).

Ray Stubbe

 

Father Thomas S Stott
Passed away 18 Jan 2005.

     Tom served two tours as a corpsman in Vietnam with G Co 2/26, 67-68 and B Co 1/7 in 1970. Tom became a Catholic priest and served several churches in North Carolina. He was a loyal Khe Sanh Veteran and will be missed by all. Our condolences to his loving family.

 

 


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